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  • Why can't Sri Lanka ever create aircraft?

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    • Originally posted by Speedbird View Post
      This thread is about military AVIATION...not about maritime security...either way you need money to buy which come from health of the economy
      Yes the health of the economy is unfortunately not really understood here. Just because there is a Russian credit line available it doesn't make sense to go and use it we still have to pay back with the interest...

      If we really have to use the credit line we can use it on something more useful and spend it towards the SU 30s (which are still 20 years old). This 'interest of security of SL' phobia is pretty pointless when you spend it all on one ship that is not going to have the latest offensive\defensive capabilities when everyone else in the neighbourhood are spending their money on the latest technology.

      It's like going to a war armed with toothpicks...
      Last edited by LukeSkywalker; 02-10-2017, 11:18 PM.

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      • Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
        Yes the health of the economy is unfortunately not really understood here. Just because there is a Russian credit line available it doesn't make sense to go and use it we still have to pay back with the interest...

        If we really have to use the credit line we can use it on something more useful and spend it towards the SU 30s (which are still 20 years old). This 'interest of security of SL' phobia is pretty pointless when you spend it all on one ship that is not going to have the latest offensive\defensive capabilities when everyone else in the neighbourhood are spending their money on the latest technology.

        It's like going to a war armed with toothpicks...
        Agree with you. In 2013 SLAF bought 13 new MI17 using this credit line. It was very useful deal. Several those MI17 now in Central African Republic. They are generating income for country.

        And also buying BTR another useful deal. They are mainly for for UN Peace keeping missions. And we all saw that how useful BTRs when flood situation.

        Buying SU30 is a waste. To maintain SU30 fleet, SLAF need high tech trainers also. K8 is not technological advance to train SU30 pilots. Instead of SU30, we could buy IIYUSHIN strategic airlifter. which could very useful for SLAF. SLAF officials requesting strategic air lifter from several years.

        But sadly our policy makers and officials of defense ministry(most of the officials don't have military background) think only about their commissions.

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        • 18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
          Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04

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          • Originally posted by Randy View Post
            Buying SU30 is a waste. To maintain SU30 fleet, SLAF need high tech trainers also. K8 is not technological advance to train SU30 pilots. Instead of SU30, we could buy IIYUSHIN strategic airlifter. which could very useful for SLAF. SLAF officials requesting strategic air lifter from several years.
            I wonder, what will anybody of the size of SL do with An IL ? You mean IL 76 ?

            If needed, there is enough commercial cargo operators, unless SL is waging a secret war in some country which nobody knows of, I see no need for anything like IL.

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            • Originally posted by Serendib View Post
              18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
              Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04
              Do you have a link for this?

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              • Originally posted by fdk2008 View Post
                Do you have a link for this?
                18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
                Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04
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                • Japan likely to deliver two P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft's to SLAF.

                  The P-3 Orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

                  If Sri Lanka does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

                  Lockheed Martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the Orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

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                  • Originally posted by max View Post
                    japan likely to deliver two p-3 orion maritime surveillance aircraft's to slaf.

                    The p-3 orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

                    If sri lanka does end up taking the former japanese p-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

                    Lockheed martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

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                    • Guys - think!

                      You know how 'Business' is done in Sri Lanka. These military deals are no different than any other corrupt deals.

                      This has nothing to do with Airforce requirements - it's all about the Commissions and other bribes and kickbacks associated with all the corrupt deals.

                      Once again a few will profit at the expense of the entire country!
                      Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                      • Originally posted by Max View Post
                        Japan likely to deliver two P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft's to SLAF.

                        The P-3 Orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

                        If Sri Lanka does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

                        Lockheed Martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the Orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

                        P3 is very capable platform for surveillance activities i would say (Counter smuggling, anti-piracy etc). plus it's high time we setup Naval air arm and allocate these sort of assets to them. i'm not sure why we operate a Separate Airforce element in-fact it should be a Naval Air arm we should go forward. this is just my idea.
                        Last edited by ruslan047910; 08-10-2017, 08:55 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Serendib View Post
                          18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
                          Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04
                          Does SLAF really need them, or just another shady transaction for some goons to make a few quick bucks ?

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                          • https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...rion-aircraft/

                            Of particular interest...

                            According to Japan’s Nikkei Asian Review, Malaysia approached Japan for a donation of its retired P-3Cs. However, Nikkei noted that Japan’s parliament will need to revise the foundational law of the Ministry of Defense that would allow equipment to be given to other nations at no cost, as currently some form of compensation is required by law for the transfer of Japanese national assets

                            If Malaysia does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.


                            Not sure why we need a naval air arm other than helicopters for the navy and coastgaurd.
                            Last edited by LukeSkywalker; 08-10-2017, 09:32 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ejanson65 View Post
                              Guys - think!

                              You know how 'Business' is done in Sri Lanka. These military deals are no different than any other corrupt deals.

                              This has nothing to do with Airforce requirements - it's all about the Commissions and other bribes and kickbacks associated with all the corrupt deals.

                              Once again a few will profit at the expense of the entire country!
                              Though I hate the commies, times like this make me consider becoming a commie

                              Ah, well, the issue is, running a country takes lot of talent, and skills and resource.

                              Unfortunately, the ones who can make a change aren't interested, or being kept away.

                              Or being scared with the amount of violence.

                              For comparison:

                              .........

                              Qualifications for membership of Parliament

                              45.—(1) Subject to this Article, a person shall not be qualified to be a Member of Parliament who —

                              (a) is and has been found or declared to be of unsound mind;

                              (b) is an undischarged bankrupt;

                              (c) holds an office of profit;

                              (d) having been nominated for election to Parliament or the office of President or having acted as election agent to a person so nominated, has failed to lodge any return of election expenses required by law within the time and in the manner so required;

                              (e) has been convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon:
                              Provided that where the conviction is by a court of law in Malaysia, the person shall not be so disqualified unless the offence is also one which, had it been committed in Singapore, would have been punishable by a court of law in Singapore;

                              (f)has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of, or exercised rights of citizenship in, a foreign country or has made a declaration of allegiance to a foreign country; or
                              (g)is disqualified under any law relating to offences in connection with elections to Parliament or the office of President by reason of having been convicted of such an offence or having in proceedings relating to such an election been proved guilty of an act constituting such an offence.

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                              • Think about this:- Who represents the biggest threat to the country?

                                USA?
                                Russia?
                                China?
                                India?

                                or your Corrupt, Incompetent Politicians/family members/cronies/Criminal Scum/Racketeers

                                Something for everyone to think about.
                                Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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