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banuthev
20-06-2017, 08:00 PM
Railway Discussion Thread

Good news for Train Lovers !!

This is a discussion thread for discussing about emerging Railway Industry in Sri Lanka. You can also discuss about international Railways on this thread. Please do share the pictures , news, updates and videos on this thread.

I am a great fan of Sri Lanka Train locomotives. I had a great chance to be in my favourite loco M4 -,several years ago.

I will be sharing the train pictures and videos from Europe.

Thanks for contributing on this thread.


I found this nice picture from google. Credits to original owner. Does any one know the location where does the picture must have taken in Sri Lanka?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0aIDmGUgabE/UrzsNmc3cOI/AAAAAAAAAzc/IVLpLtCncfw/s1600/4581717086_ff0e878406_o.jpg

banuthev
20-06-2017, 08:00 PM
Hi Haleef,

I am a fan of Railway Industry and its good to hear Matara - Kataragama railway extension project have been 85% completed : http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2017/06/18/matara-kataragama-railway-extension-nears-completion

Since I am out of touch on Sri Lanka railways in the recent years , I am curious to know more about latest update on Sri Lanka Railway industry. Please tell me the list of Railway Lines have the new tracks in Sri Lanka.

Cheers
:)

Haleef
22-06-2017, 01:33 PM
Hi Haleef,

I am a fan of Railway Industry and its good to hear Matara - Kataragama railway extension project have been 85% completed : http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2017/06/18/matara-kataragama-railway-extension-nears-completion

Since I am out of touch on Sri Lanka railways in the recent years , I am curious to know more about latest update on Sri Lanka Railway industry. Please tell me the list of Railway Lines have the new tracks in Sri Lanka.

Cheers
:)

Hi,

I'm not very sure on any updates on the Matara - Hambantota line yet, but I think it is still undergoing construction slowly. :)

banuthev
22-06-2017, 07:44 PM
Hi,

I'm not very sure on any updates on the Matara - Hambantota line yet, but I think it is still undergoing construction slowly. :)

Does other lines like Colombo-Jaffna, Colombo-Matara, Colombo-Kandy etc have the new railway tracks? because the old tracks are not suitable for high speed trains for atleast 100 kmph.

According to Railway Gazette, SL is going to receive DLW locos and ICF DMU from India next year. Hope SL will select the good locos with better hose power.


India’s RITES consultancy business recorded 18% year-on-year increase in income in 2016-17, with a profit of Rs3·3bn on a turnover of Rs15bn. Highlights included the supply of 120 coaches to Bangladesh Railways, and two contracts to supply DLW locomotives and ICF DMUs to Sri Lanka Railways in the coming year.

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/business/single-view/view/railway-supply-industry-news-round-up-38.html

banuthev
22-06-2017, 08:07 PM
Is M9 (866) back on service ? i saw picture somewhere with a new paint. How many M9s are on service in Sri Lanka?

nipuna787
22-06-2017, 08:48 PM
According to Railway Gazette, SL is going to receive DLW locos and ICF DMU from India next year. Hope SL will select the good locos with better hose power.

Well, there are many rumours about these newcomers. Another most talked rumour is SLR is going to have GE locos (most probably made in India - according to Railway Gazette GE is going to have a plant in India) similar to GE CM20-EMP in Indonesian Railway with 7FDL engine. Then there's a rumour that SLR is going to have another batch of DMU sets similar to Class S12 from China. Then this pure Indian locos, coaches and DMUs you stated. Rumours say there are some leftovers of Indian credit line for SLR.

Only thing we can do is hope for the best, which is usually not happening.

From the past experience, Chinese DMUs (Class S12) are performing nicely. They are the most efficient and well performing work-horse by now.

These GE locos are going to be high tech locos like Class M9, if they are coming at all. These high tech locos like Class M9 were not handled the way they should be in the SLR. That was the cause for the fate of Class M9. But gradually they are becoming familiar with computer controlled locomotives it seems. Let's see how do they deal with the latest renovations on the Class M9 locomotives.

Finally Indian locomotives, coaches and DMUs. Well, they do their job. Class M8 is the most powerful locomotive the SLR has. But there are serious concerns about their efficiency, durability and quality. With heavy diplomatic pressure from India they still run. Coaches are the same. They are not comfortable as decades old Romanian coaches even now. Same concerns are there for DMUs as for Indian locomotives. Class S11 is performing quite better than M8 and M10 in efficiency. It's much comfortable for passengers too. But again there are many issues in safety, durability and quality.

nipuna787
22-06-2017, 08:54 PM
Is M9 (866) back on service ? i saw picture somewhere with a new paint. How many M9s are on service in Sri Lanka?

Yes 866 is back on service. At least test runs. They have installed a new control system from India called "Medha" based on Windows 7 embedded version. I have no idea about exact numbers. But there are only a few working, may be 3 or 4. I've seen 872 is working. Heard 867 is going to be renovated next (Or already done).

banuthev
22-06-2017, 09:18 PM
Yes 866 is back on service. At least test runs. They have installed a new control system from India called "Medha" based on Windows 7 embedded version. I have no idea about exact numbers. But there are only a few working, may be 3 or 4. I've seen 872 is working. Heard 867 is going to be renovated next (Or already done).

Good to hear this. What sort of renovation these M9s going to get? Any possibility they can get re-work on the engine to increase the hose power?

banuthev
22-06-2017, 09:25 PM
Well, there are many rumours about these newcomers. Another most talked rumour is SLR is going to have GE locos (most probably made in India - according to Railway Gazette GE is going to have a plant in India) similar to GE CM20-EMP in Indonesian Railway with 7FDL engine. Then there's a rumour that SLR is going to have another batch of DMU sets similar to Class S12 from China. Then this pure Indian locos, coaches and DMUs you stated. Rumours say there are some leftovers of Indian credit line for SLR.

Only thing we can do is hope for the best, which is usually not happening.

From the past experience, Chinese DMUs (Class S12) are performing nicely. They are the most efficient and well performing work-horse by now.

These GE locos are going to be high tech locos like Class M9, if they are coming at all. These high tech locos like Class M9 were not handled the way they should be in the SLR. That was the cause for the fate of Class M9. But gradually they are becoming familiar with computer controlled locomotives it seems. Let's see how do they deal with the latest renovations on the Class M9 locomotives.

Finally Indian locomotives, coaches and DMUs. Well, they do their job. Class M8 is the most powerful locomotive the SLR has. But there are serious concerns about their efficiency, durability and quality. With heavy diplomatic pressure from India they still run. Coaches are the same. They are not comfortable as decades old Romanian coaches even now. Same concerns are there for DMUs as for Indian locomotives. Class S11 is performing quite better than M8 and M10 in efficiency. It's much comfortable for passengers too. But again there are many issues in safety, durability and quality.

Is M4 still in service?
What is the need for more locos and DMUs? Are the old ones going to be retired?
I feel that SL better invest on better train-coaches. I really hate the appearance of Romanian built Astras. I think its very weak. SL have to get more coaches from India. So most of the long distances trainss could haul with at least 12 carriages.

Cheers

nipuna787
23-06-2017, 05:30 AM
Good to hear this. What sort of renovation these M9s going to get? Any possibility they can get re-work on the engine to increase the hose power?

Well, Class M9 is said to be already de-rated to 1800 hp and max power is 3200 hp. Still it can haul fair number of coaches with this power. Stations in SL can barely accommodate a train that has beyond 15-16 coaches. So in my opinion there won't be a power increment. What they do is simply replacing the control system with a new one. More details haven't been out yet.

Original system was giving troubles when running in SL environment. As the solution what people at SLR did was, removing sensors one by one. Then the whole system went unreliable. I don't know what they've done this time, other than the OS replacement. Will let you know once anything is out.

This group is a good source of information: yakadayaka/ Have a look at it if you like. :)

nipuna787
23-06-2017, 05:49 AM
Is M4 still in service?
What is the need for more locos and DMUs? Are the old ones going to be retired?
I feel that SL better invest on better train-coaches. I really hate the appearance of Romanian built Astras. I think its very weak. SL have to get more coaches from India. So most of the long distances trainss could haul with at least 12 carriages.

Cheers

All the locos in M4 fleet is still in service.

Well I don't see a critical requirement of retiring old fleets. But we need more reliable locos and DMUs like S12. Failure rate of old fleets are getting high. And there's a loco shortage too. Commissions factor and diplomatic pressure are also playing major role in these purchases too.

Yes I agree SLR should focus on passenger comfort by deploying better coaches. But I don't see Indian coaches are an option. We experience the bad quality of those Indian products on daily basis. And I agree the time is up for Astra coaches, but I can assure you they are still strong even after 30 years of service. And almost all long distance trains already are running with 10-12 coaches except for upcountry line. More than 12 would be a no go as I mentioned earlier stations barely accommodate bigger trains except for Coastal and Northern lines.

banuthev
23-06-2017, 10:19 AM
Well, Class M9 is said to be already de-rated to 1800 hp and max power is 3200 hp. Still it can haul fair number of coaches with this power. Stations in SL can barely accommodate a train that has beyond 15-16 coaches. So in my opinion there won't be a power increment. What they do is simply replacing the control system with a new one. More details haven't been out yet.

Original system was giving troubles when running in SL environment. As the solution what people at SLR did was, removing sensors one by one. Then the whole system went unreliable. I don't know what they've done this time, other than the OS replacement. Will let you know once anything is out.

This group is a good source of information: yakadayaka/ Have a look at it if you like. :)

Thank you Nipuna. It will be much appreciated if you keep us informed about the updates on SLR.

SL Gov has received 318$ from India for developing the Sri Lanka Railways. Do you know what sort of development SL gov would like to make on SLR? I wish they refurbish all the old railway tracks, railway stations, signals and coaches.

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/article/1023324/usd-318-million-credit-line-from-india-to-develop-sri-lanka-railways

nipuna787
23-06-2017, 10:50 AM
Thank you Nipuna. It will be much appreciated if you keep us informed about the updates on SLR.

SL Gov has received 318$ from India for developing the Sri Lanka Railways. Do you know what sort of development SL gov would like to make on SLR? I wish they refurbish all the old railway tracks, railway stations, signals and coaches.

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/article/1023324/usd-318-million-credit-line-from-india-to-develop-sri-lanka-railways

As far as I know Indian credit line is only for early mentioned rolling stock purchases and MHO to ANP track re-layering

banuthev
23-06-2017, 12:36 PM
As far as I know Indian credit line is only for early mentioned rolling stock purchases and MHO to ANP track re-layering

10 x DLWs and 6 x DMUs are joining the fleet next year.

According to below source, these locos and DMUs will be under construction. Not sure its true. But I also heard that India trying to retire the ageing Diesel locos so they may off load them to other nations.

http://m.railjournal.com/index.php/locomotives/sri-lanka-orders-indian-locomotives-and-dmus.html

https://www.seat61.com/images/SriLanka-new-wide.jpg

Have you travelled on above Chinese built carriages? What do you think about them? It looks prity nice and better looking than Astra carriages. :)

Serendib
23-06-2017, 09:07 PM
Well, there are many rumours about these newcomers. Another most talked rumour is SLR is going to have GE locos (most probably made in India - according to Railway Gazette GE is going to have a plant in India) similar to GE CM20-EMP in Indonesian Railway with 7FDL engine. Then there's a rumour that SLR is going to have another batch of DMU sets similar to Class S12 from China. Then this pure Indian locos, coaches and DMUs you stated. Rumours say there are some leftovers of Indian credit line for SLR.

Only thing we can do is hope for the best, which is usually not happening.

From the past experience, Chinese DMUs (Class S12) are performing nicely. They are the most efficient and well performing work-horse by now.

These GE locos are going to be high tech locos like Class M9, if they are coming at all. These high tech locos like Class M9 were not handled the way they should be in the SLR. That was the cause for the fate of Class M9. But gradually they are becoming familiar with computer controlled locomotives it seems. Let's see how do they deal with the latest renovations on the Class M9 locomotives.

Finally Indian locomotives, coaches and DMUs. Well, they do their job. Class M8 is the most powerful locomotive the SLR has. But there are serious concerns about their efficiency, durability and quality. With heavy diplomatic pressure from India they still run. Coaches are the same. They are not comfortable as decades old Romanian coaches even now. Same concerns are there for DMUs as for Indian locomotives. Class S11 is performing quite better than M8 and M10 in efficiency. It's much comfortable for passengers too. But again there are many issues in safety, durability and quality.

Welcome to our Forum !
Do you work for SL Railways?

Serendib
23-06-2017, 09:07 PM
News

Proposed project to use MagLev line linking Negombo, BIA, Bopitiya, Ragama, Kettarama, Fort, Port City and Kollupitiya railway station.

Read more: http://www.ft.lk/article/622332/Partners-firmed-up-for-high-speed-rail-and-mega-mixed-development-project

nipuna787
24-06-2017, 03:16 AM
10 x DLWs and 6 x DMUs are joining the fleet next year.

According to below source, these locos and DMUs will be under construction. Not sure its true. But I also heard that India trying to retire the ageing Diesel locos so they may off load them to other nations.

http://m.railjournal.com/index.php/locomotives/sri-lanka-orders-indian-locomotives-and-dmus.html

https://www.seat61.com/images/SriLanka-new-wide.jpg

Have you travelled on above Chinese built carriages? What do you think about them? It looks prity nice and better looking than Astra carriages. :)

Yes, Those are the rolling stock above mentioned. They will definitely come. You know the Indian influence here.

These Chinese coaches are the worst. They are super uncomfortable and so noisy. Those windows are too small to have a good view too. They have some brakes issue too. Hence only runs on flat lines.

Only the exterior appearance is good. And need to mention, the reliably and product quality is also better.

nipuna787
24-06-2017, 03:27 AM
Welcome to our Forum !
Do you work for SL Railways?

News

Proposed project to use MagLev line linking Negombo, BIA, Bopitiya, Ragama, Kettarama, Fort, Port City and Kollupitiya railway station.

Read more: http://www.ft.lk/article/622332/Partners-firmed-up-for-high-speed-rail-and-mega-mixed-development-project

Thanks alot Serendib :) No, I'm not working for SLR. I'm just a railway enthusiast.

MagLev in Sri Lanka? What a total idiotic move. Who maintains it? Who pays to build it? What's the requirement to have a MagLev in Colombo suburbs rather a conventional metro? I don't know who gives these people those ideas. Commissions commissions everywhere commissions... God bless Sri Lanka... :(

banuthev
24-06-2017, 11:50 PM
Yes, Those are the rolling stock above mentioned. They will definitely come. You know the Indian influence here.

These Chinese coaches are the worst. They are super uncomfortable and so noisy. Those windows are too small to have a good view too. They have some brakes issue too. Hence only runs on flat lines.

Only the exterior appearance is good. And need to mention, the reliably and product quality is also better.

I was always wondering does these Chinese built carriages are not being used for Kandy services. Your explanation have cleared my doubt.

Its indeed a noisy carriages.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6hRi2ytymY

Source : Janagan

banuthev
24-06-2017, 11:54 PM
Thanks alot Serendib :) No, I'm not working for SLR. I'm just a railway enthusiast.

MagLev in Sri Lanka? What a total idiotic move. Who maintains it? Who pays to build it? What's the requirement to have a MagLev in Colombo suburbs rather a conventional metro? I don't know who gives these people those ideas. Commissions commissions everywhere commissions... God bless Sri Lanka... :(

I agree with you.

Any update on Fort-Colombo Airport express service as mentioned in this url? http://archives.dailynews.lk/2012/06/08/bus01.asp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U40QSS7kxs4

banuthev
25-06-2017, 11:47 AM
Gents,

I took the below picture of Class 390 Pendolino near Atherstone Railway Station, England. Type EMU is hauling to London from Glasgow Central.

<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/125054626@N07/35134935000/in/dateposted-public/" title="Atherstone Train Station - 00001"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4281/35134935000_1b72b8ec51_c.jpg" width="800" height="450" alt="Atherstone Train Station - 00001"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

banuthev
25-06-2017, 11:56 AM
The Class 390 Pendolino is a type of electric high-speed train operated by Virgin Trains in the United Kingdom. They are electric multiple units using Fiat Ferroviaria's tilting train Pendolino technology and built by Alstom. Alstom is the same manufacturer of Sri Lanka's Class M9 locos.

I hope you like my video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRFOubcs-mE

more to come from the different spots :)

banuthev
25-06-2017, 03:59 PM
Thanks alot Serendib :) No, I'm not working for SLR. I'm just a railway enthusiast.

MagLev in Sri Lanka? What a total idiotic move. Who maintains it? Who pays to build it? What's the requirement to have a MagLev in Colombo suburbs rather a conventional metro? I don't know who gives these people those ideas. Commissions commissions everywhere commissions... God bless Sri Lanka... :(

SL gov has to focus on improving the standards of railway stations, railways tracks, carriages etc.. instead of wasting money on white-elephant projects like Maglev. SLR needs new railway tracks and better quality of train carriages through out the country.

ruslan047910
25-06-2017, 06:09 PM
SL gov has to focus on improving the standards of railway stations, railways tracks, carriages etc.. instead of wasting money on white-elephant projects like Maglev. SLR needs new railway tracks and better quality of train carriages through out the country.

Indeed, i think it's time to renovate the upcountry track. with current status, it's limiting operating heavy locos, if i remember correct, M9s were imported to operated on upcountry track. poor quality tracks prevented using of them. they were operated previously up to Nawalapitiya.

banuthev
25-06-2017, 08:50 PM
Indeed, i think it's time to renovate the upcountry track. with current status, it's limiting operating heavy locos, if i remember correct, M9s were imported to operated on upcountry track. poor quality tracks prevented using of them. they were operated previously up to Nawalapitiya.

I think Udarata Menike, Podi Menike, Tikiri Menike and Senkadagala Menike are currently hauled by Class W1, W3, S12 and M5. S12 is also being used upto Matale and Badulla once daily service.

There are concrete ballasted rail tracks near Kadugannawa Train Station (see below picture) but most of the other rail tracks at the upcountry are with old style wooden sleepers.

Please correct me if i am wrong :)

Where SLR does use the M9 then ?

Serendib
25-06-2017, 09:02 PM
Jeez! what happened???

The engine of Udarata Manike train plying from Colombo Fort to Badulla got detached from carriages near the Singimale tunnel in Hatton this afternoon

http://www.hirunews.lk/Data/News_Images/201706/1498392650_8005472_hirunews_hatton.jpg

http://www.hirunews.lk/164383/engine-udarata-manike-train-detached-in-hatton-photos

Haleef
26-06-2017, 05:35 AM
The Class 390 Pendolino is a type of electric high-speed train operated by Virgin Trains in the United Kingdom. They are electric multiple units using Fiat Ferroviaria's tilting train Pendolino technology and built by Alstom. Alstom is the same manufacturer of Sri Lanka's Class M9 locos.

I hope you like my video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRFOubcs-mE

more to come from the different spots :)

Superb video, and that's such a great speed!

Haleef
26-06-2017, 05:38 AM
Indian Varanasi DLW, Class M8 842 and Hitachi Class M5c 775 hauling #51 to Colombo from Matara.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQKuq5pFc1o

Haleef
26-06-2017, 05:42 AM
Here's my playlist of all the Cab-Ride videos that I've filmed with the Sri Lankan Railway.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrb-Q-8-5N9AA5kUPD_9sviQqbEsFxAv5

Serendib
26-06-2017, 06:18 AM
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/170625/news/matara-beliatta-railway-track-chinese-contractor-lankan-engineers-union-trade-barbs-246777.html

Mach3
26-06-2017, 10:45 AM
I was always wondering does these Chinese built carriages are not being used for Kandy services. Your explanation have cleared my doubt.

Its indeed a noisy carriages.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6hRi2ytymY

Source : Janagan

Rolling stock equipped with air brakes are not suitable for operations in hill terrain due to some short comings, they cannot remain stationary on inclined surfaces. So the Romanian Astra compartments with vacuum brakes are used in this line. Although there is one exception in the case of class S12 which also uses air brakes, although this type uses a brake designed and built by a German company known as Knorr&bremse.

banuthev
26-06-2017, 09:35 PM
Rolling stock equipped with air brakes are not suitable for operations in hill terrain due to some short comings, they cannot remain stationary on inclined surfaces. So the Romanian Astra compartments with vacuum brakes are used in this line. Although there is one exception in the case of class S12 which also uses air brakes, although this type uses a brake designed and built by a German company known as Knorr&bremse.

That's really informative. Thank you. It's good to hear the advantages of Astra carriages.

It will be better if SLR paint the exterior and refurbish the interiors of Astra carriages. Most of the Astra carriages looks pathetic with a faded exterior paint.

What do you think ?

banuthev
26-06-2017, 10:16 PM
Gents,

Please find the list of long distance trains departing from Colombo Fort.

Hope you find it useful. :)

Source : SLR

SLD
27-06-2017, 02:19 PM
A piece of history. National railway museum
http://DSCN5922

SLD
27-06-2017, 02:22 PM
Udarata Manike -Towards Kandy (Class S12)
http://DSCN6195

banuthev
27-06-2017, 03:30 PM
Hi SLD,

Welcome to our Forum.

I can't see your pictures.

Here are the steps to attach images on our forum post :

1 - Click on Reply to thread
2 - Click on Go advanced
3 - Click on Insert attachments
4 - Upload the files from your computer (https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=3678138).

SLD
27-06-2017, 04:07 PM
Hi SLD,

Welcome to our Forum.

I can't see your pictures.

Here are the steps to attach images on our forum post :

Thanks. I tried, but upload failed.

banuthev
27-06-2017, 06:32 PM
Thanks. I tried, but upload failed.

Please try these steps. It should be working.

1 - Click on Reply to thread
2 - Click on Go advanced
3 - Click on Manage attachments
4 - Click on Add Files
5 - Click on Basic Uploader
6 - Upload the files from your computer

Serendib
28-06-2017, 07:38 AM
http://dailynews.lk/2017/06/13/local/118663/matara-%E2%80%93-kataragama-railway-extension-cmc-will-not-compromise-quality

nipuna787
28-06-2017, 08:10 AM
I agree with you.

Any update on Fort-Colombo Airport express service as mentioned in this url? http://archives.dailynews.lk/2012/06/08/bus01.asp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U40QSS7kxs4

No Banuthev, That plan was from previous government and even though that was a good proposal, they didn't materialised it. I don't know what went behind it. I don't see any developments with this gov regarding this.

nipuna787
28-06-2017, 08:18 AM
I think Udarata Menike, Podi Menike, Tikiri Menike and Senkadagala Menike are currently hauled by Class W1, W3, S12 and M5. S12 is also being used upto Matale and Badulla once daily service.

There are concrete ballasted rail tracks near Kadugannawa Train Station (see below picture) but most of the other rail tracks at the upcountry are with old style wooden sleepers.

Please correct me if i am wrong :)

Where SLR does use the M9 then ?

- UM, PM, Matale express (up to Kandy. Kandy - Matale section is the weakest line among SLR lines anything beyond W3, M5 and M7 are not allowed) and weekend Kandy ICE (Full AC, others have only one AC coach) are S12
- Tikiri Menike is W3 mostly and sometimes W2A
- Senkadagala Menike is M9
- Kandy - Matara is also hauled by an M9

SLR started replacing wooden sleepers with concretes on upcountry line since years now. But still more than 50% of the track is on wooden sleepers.

Few years back M9 has sent up to Navalapitya. I hope they'll start it again after recent renovations.

nipuna787
28-06-2017, 08:35 AM
Rolling stock equipped with air brakes are not suitable for operations in hill terrain due to some short comings, they cannot remain stationary on inclined surfaces. So the Romanian Astra compartments with vacuum brakes are used in this line. Although there is one exception in the case of class S12 which also uses air brakes, although this type uses a brake designed and built by a German company known as Knorr&bremse.

Well firstly I don't think these Chinese carriages were not imported for the upcountry in the first place. Because they are lengthy (65 ft as I remember). We have real tight curves in upcountry line (less than 100 m curve radius). 55 ft Romanian carriages are also barely taking those curves. Ideal length is around 50 ft I think (as in S12).

Then this air brakes case; I don't really think "Air Brakes" are the one to blame. Best example is as Mach3 forwarded S12 is performing nicely on upcountry with "Air Brakes". So, in my opinion those Chinese carriages has weak braking system which can not hold it on the incline. (Don't forget, we have the highest incline (1:44) anywhere in the world on broad gauge. (5' 6"). So it had to be real tight brakes). S12 nailed it because their brakes are tight enough to hold the train. There could be other properties as well. But it's not a problem with Air Brakes.

banuthev
01-07-2017, 03:48 PM
FreightLiners :)

I took these pictures near Atherstone, England. Hope you like them.

Loco in the 1st pic is Class 66 and the locos in the 2nd & 3rd pictures are Class 90

banuthev
02-07-2017, 07:10 PM
As far as I know Indian credit line is only for early mentioned rolling stock purchases and MHO to ANP track re-layering

Does New Railway tracks with ballasted concrete available beyond Anuradhapura to Kankesanturai and Colombo to Maho line?

When is SL gov going to start the renovation for Maho to Anuradhapura line?

Mach3
03-07-2017, 06:12 AM
Does New Railway tracks with ballasted concrete available beyond Anuradhapura to Kankesanturai and Colombo to Maho line?

When is SL gov going to start the renovation for Maho to Anuradhapura line?

GoSL once said that it would lay a new track parallel to the old up-to maho thereby making it a double line. None of these happened but they should now seriously consider rebuilding the maho-anuradhapura section as the condition of it is dreadful and deteriorating fast. The jaffna intercity has to take on a harsh beating while doing only around 55-60 on this section.

asiri77x
03-07-2017, 08:41 AM
GoSL once said that it would lay a new track parallel to the old up-to maho thereby making it a double line. None of these happened but they should now seriously consider rebuilding the maho-anuradhapura section as the condition of it is dreadful and deteriorating fast. The jaffna intercity has to take on a harsh beating while doing only around 55-60 on this section.

Now this project is under bid preparation stage. IRCON proposes they would like to lay a paralel line. But railway department arguing that they don't have a double line form POL-MHO. So the thing will be a rehabilitation from MHO to Omanthai. From Apur to Omanthai also a weak trak.

Mach3
13-07-2017, 06:15 PM
Train services have been disrupted on the upcountry line between kotagala and Hatton due to a derailment when the night mail was traversing through the section. This has taken place over a bridge which is worst case scenario as it has ripped through the sleepers and also metal structural components which holds the bridge. To make matters worse the steam crane which was deployed to assist the situation too had derailed and as a result the control room says that it would take two weeks to resolve the situation.

On a side note did anyone notice what locomotive was deployed with the night mail yesterday. For what I saw it looked like the M2 627, someone please confirm.

banuthev
13-07-2017, 09:15 PM
Train services have been disrupted on the upcountry line between kotagala and Hatton due to a derailment when the night mail was traversing through the section. This has taken place over a bridge which is worst case scenario as it has ripped through the sleepers and also metal structural components which holds the bridge. To make matters worse the steam crane which was deployed to assist the situation too had derailed and as a result the control room says that it would take two weeks to resolve the situation.

On a side note did anyone notice what locomotive was deployed with the night mail yesterday. For what I saw it looked like the M2 627, someone please confirm.

Any serious damage to the loco and the train? Hope SLR would complete the railway lines for upcountry with ballasted concrete asap.

Serendib
15-07-2017, 10:33 PM
Matara-Beliatta railway extension project

Serendib
15-07-2017, 10:34 PM
Renovation of Polonnaruwa-Batticaloa railway line complete in two years

Wednesday, July 12, 2017 - 13:15

Irangika Range

The renovation work of the Polonnaruwa-Batticaloa railway line which has been suspended for many years due to the conflict will be commenced shortly to facilitate an efficient passenger and goods transportation.

Transport and Civil Aviation Minister Nimal Siripala de Silva said that the restoration project will be completed within two years.

Minister De Silva made these remarks during an observation tour in Polonnaruwa Railway station today.

Over 12,000 sleepers are required for the reconstruction of 90 kilometer long railway line between Polonnaruwa and Batticaloa and around 10,000 sleepers have already been brought to the site.

“Currently, trains run on this line at a very low speed of 60km per hour due to many bridges and over 60 culverts. But, trains can speed over 100 km per hour easily after the renovation reducing the time needed to travel passengers between Polonnaruwa and Batticaloa,” said the Minister.

He further said that the encroachment by people on the railway land is a main reason to delay the renovation. Steps will be taken to remove unauthorized occupants according to existing circulars approved by the Cabinet for the eviction of people.

Land surveying and mapping are being conducted currently to acquire lands belonging to the Sri Lanka Railways.

http://www.dailynews.lk/2017/07/12/local/121766/renovation-polonnaruwa-batticaloa-railway-line-complete-two-years

nipuna787
16-07-2017, 02:01 AM
Does New Railway tracks with ballasted concrete available beyond Anuradhapura to Kankesanturai and Colombo to Maho line?

When is SL gov going to start the renovation for Maho to Anuradhapura line?

Up to PLG and beyond OMT the track is good. Trains can run up to 100kmph and 120kmph respectively (beyond OMT. but recently they have reduced the speed limit as I heard)

And no, I'm not aware of the time line of the project. I also heard about double tracking proposal. I think it's much needed. And I agree with Mach3 about the condition of the said section. It's in very serious condition and need an repair ASAP.

nipuna787
16-07-2017, 02:11 AM
Any serious damage to the loco and the train? Hope SLR would complete the railway lines for upcountry with ballasted concrete asap.

Locomotives were safe (the train consisted two locos) three varies were badly damaged. And track was badly damaged too. The bridge also had some damages. Anyways re-railing works are finished now. Track repairs are going on now. By a day or two they will finish everything I hope.

banuthev
17-07-2017, 07:07 PM
Train Accident in Hatton

How did this happened ? did the loco driver exceed the speed limit on the bridge ? Any latest update on Hatton railway line ? have they moved those 3 damaged carriages to Repair centre?
SLR have to upgrade the upcountry railway lines asap. It's affecting the passenger safely and tourism.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV25SyTr2jo

Source: Lakbima NewsPaper

banuthev
17-07-2017, 07:32 PM
Locomotives were safe (the train consisted two locos) three varies were badly damaged. And track was badly damaged too. The bridge also had some damages. Anyways re-railing works are finished now. Track repairs are going on now. By a day or two they will finish everything I hope.

What is the train name ? why it was hauled by two locos on the day of the accident ? According to above video, one of the loco which hauled the train was W3.

Haleef
18-07-2017, 01:40 AM
What is the train name ? why it was hauled by two locos on the day of the accident ? According to above video, one of the loco which hauled the train was W3.

The train was the Colombo - Badulla Night Mail, no.#1045. It was hauled by two locomotives, one was M2c 627 and the other was an M6. Both locos were double headed, instead of one loco which was supposed to be banking the train from behind. I got info from some driver stating that their is some kind of a gradient into the entry to the Kotagala railway bridge, and the train was a bit too fast while entering the bridge, whereas the carriages started wobbling and bouncing, causing it to derail.
The W3 in the video is only for the break down train, and there was also an M5c, no.767 involved in the break down train. Making matter worse, even the steam crane which was hauled by M6 795 had also derailed.

banuthev
20-07-2017, 06:41 PM
Hatton Train Road is Clear


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQs1Jnu_hg

Source: Lakbima NewsPaper

Serendib
27-07-2017, 07:03 AM
01. Obtaining funds for Department of Railway to purchase 09 diesel power sets (Document No – 07)

The proposal made by Hon. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, in his capacity as the Minister of National Policies and Economic Affairs, to enter into loan agreements with Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation and Hatton National Bank for obtaining funds for the above project, which the cost is estimated as USD 93.86, was approved by the Cabinet of Ministers.

DECISIONS TAKEN BY THE CABINET OF MINISTERS AT ITS MEETING HELD ON 25-07-2017

NEWS.LK

Serendib
04-08-2017, 10:15 PM
03. Maintaining and expanding rail road network ( Document No 12)

The proposal made by Hon. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, as the Minister of National policies and Economic Affairs to hold negotiations and enter in to agreements on long facilities provided by the Austrian Government, to implement a project at a cost of 7.6 million Euros, for following activities, was approved by the Cabinet of Ministers.

 Reestablishment of 07 bridges which are more than 100 years old in coastal, Northern and Matale lines.
 Renovation of Maho, Galle and Dematagoda
 Provision of tools and equipment for maintenance of rail road network.

DECISIONS TAKEN BY THE CABINET OF MINISTERS AT ITS MEETING HELD ON 01-08-2017

banuthev
08-08-2017, 09:38 AM
01. Obtaining funds for Department of Railway to purchase 09 diesel power sets (Document No – 07)

The proposal made by Hon. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, in his capacity as the Minister of National Policies and Economic Affairs, to enter into loan agreements with Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation and Hatton National Bank for obtaining funds for the above project, which the cost is estimated as USD 93.86, was approved by the Cabinet of Ministers.

DECISIONS TAKEN BY THE CABINET OF MINISTERS AT ITS MEETING HELD ON 25-07-2017

NEWS.LK

Haleef,

Do you think SLR really need the more Diesel locomotives? I think SLR better invest on confortable coaches. What do you think LHB Coaches which are being built in India by German manufacturer.

LHB Coaches : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LHB_Coaches

Haleef
08-08-2017, 09:44 AM
Haleef,

Do you think SLR really need the more Diesel locomotives? I think SLR better invest on confortable coaches. What do you think LHB Coaches which are being built in India by German manufacturer.

LHB Coaches : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LHB_Coaches

Yes in my opinion, I think they need more better, and more useful engines. Even today I was on an M6 locomotive's cab while it was hauling a coastal line slow train, and I realised the locomotive finds it very difficult to pull the train. Even the driver was mentioning that it barely pulls 8 carriages alone on the up country line. But nevertheless, still a brilliant locomotive, in service for almost 38 years.
The coaches look good, but I doubt SLR will purchase coaches as such. Also new trains will be arriving later this year soon, as the tracks leading to the Colombo Port and also in some areas around Dematagoda are currently being/already been replaced with new rails and sleepers, and also ballast :P .

Serendib
12-08-2017, 08:37 PM
Freight neglected in Colombo Suburban Railway Project

While electrification and modernisation of railways is much needed for the development of the country’s logistics sector, freight has been completely neglected in the Colombo Suburban Railway Project. Also while the initial ground work on the project has already commenced, no backup plan has been prepared to face the upcoming power crisis.

A feasibility study on the Asian Development Bank-funded project was presented by Rodolfo Martinez, consultant to the railway electrification and modernization project of Sri Lanka at the 15th John Diandas Memorial Lecture organised by the Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport at the Institute of Engineers Sri Lanka recently.

Mr. Martinez stated that the Western Province Megapolis Plan expects the daily rail passenger demand to increase to 1.2 million by 2025 and 1.4 million by 2035 from the 300,000 figure recorded in 2016. The electric railway plan serves five different corridors in Colombo and additional tracks would be necessary in some sections as the demand grows.

The first phase of the project would be a 70 km section from Panadura to Veyangoda with 23 stations. The station to station commercial speed would be around 40 km per hour, once modernized and electrified, he noted. During the panel discussion Moratuwa University Department of Transport and Logistics Professor, Amal Kumarage pointed out that the project has completely neglected the money-making freight component and only addressed the loss making-passenger transportation over the years and it still continues. He stressed that railway connectivity should be made to the main airports and harbours to ease freight movement.

Noting that the numbers projected under the Megapolis plan seems to be unrealistic and not validated, Prof. Kumarage elaborated, “The Megapolis project has based its projections off a study done several years ago when growth of demand for railroad had been high, and in the years since, the demand growth for it has been much lower.”

The power crisis is one of the biggest problems the country is about to face very soon, stated Energy Consultant Dr. Tilak Siyambalapitiya. “While only one per cent of the current supply is required for railway electrification, there is no backup plan to face the expected power crisis. Renewable energy sources could only be used as a supplementary source of power and cannot be a backup,” noted Dr. Siyambalapitiya.

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/170806/business-times/freight-neglected-in-colombo-suburban-railway-project-252865.html

Serendib
12-08-2017, 08:38 PM
Professionals push connectivity, access in Sri Lanka rail electrification .

Aug 11, 2017 18:49 PM GMT+0530

ECONOMYNEXT – Sri Lankan transport professionals have praised a plan to electrify the railway but want more careful study and inclusion of multi-modal connectivity, freight and station accessibility to ensure the investment’s best use.

Preliminary designs for the electrification and modernisation of the railway between Veyangoda, north of the capital Colombo, and Panadura on the coast to the south are almost ready, said Rodolfo Martinez, a consultant to the project.

The modernisation will be done according to the Colombo suburban railway master plan, he told a recent forum held by the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport, Sri Lanka.

The modernisation, catering mainly to passenger transport, will result in a better and more reliable suburban commuter railway service, along with upgrades to stations, Martinez said during the 15th John Diandas Memorial Lecture.

The government’s Western Region Megapolis master plan covering the Colombo metropolitan region shows potential demand available in Colombo for rail travel, he said.

“If you provide the service, demand will come because demand is there. The plan assumes the Colombo metropolitan region will continue to grow.”

Martinez said Sri Lanka cannot afford not to modernise the railway and improve public transport given increasing congestion on the roads.

The railway was already a big asset Colombo has and could be better used with modifications and modernisation, the results of which would be seen in three years.

Martinez said stations will be modernised with better passenger information, electronic ticketing but that integration with buses remains to be done.

However, transport professionals at the forum pressed for a more wide-ranging study and project that would include station accessibility, multimodal links between rail and other modes like bus, and freight carriage.

“The study should be realistic. This country has a lot of examples of putting capacity where we don’t need it and not having capacity where we need,” said Amal Kumarage, senior professor of the University of Moratuwa Department of Transport & Logistics.

The feasibility study should include forecasts of railway patronage with station development with bus accessibility and without, he told the forum.

“That’s why we need to include bus and railway station development. That’s the scientific way forward. Saying that’s another study is not the best way forward,” Kumarage said.

The Megapolis project growth rate forecasts had turned out to be “highly optimistic” and below what was projected in the feasibility study two years ago.

“We know the Megapolis plan numbers have not been validated,” Kumarage said. “We need high, low and moderate growth scenarios. It seems only the high growth factor was looked at.”

Good connections to railway stations and speeds between stations were needed to make rail attractive compared with road transport.

“People make door-to-door decisions, so speeds are important. You may not have much margin over bus travel. So the investment may not be worth it unless you have good speeds between stations and very good connections to railway stations. That’s why the access aspect seems a bit underrepresented in this study. That’s critical.”

Kumarage said the feasibility study should also consider rail fares in the modernised system to see if higher prices would affect potential demand and how big a subsidy would be needed.

“I don’t think any country makes money on urban passenger transport by rail. The benefit is in the economy.”

The suburban railway master plan should consider better connectivity, he said, noting how railway connections to the island’s ports and international airport had been neglected.

“in Sri Lanka the railway to the airport stops 100 metres from the airport, the same way rail goes up to the wall of Colombo port. It’s a unique situation. We have to look at connectivity, multimodalism, freight connectivity.”

Palitha Samarasinghe, Railway Electrification and Modernization Project director, said freight transport was not covered within the scope of the project but be done in a separate study.

“We need at least 50km distance to move freight for it to be commercially viable for the railway department.”

Kumarage said passenger and freight transport should not be looked at separately but in an integrated manner.

“Colombo is unique with the port right within the city. So we cannot exclude goods movement from the railway network.

“Goods movements are mostly in the Western province so a lot can be connected with railway since the aim is easing congestion. It may be better to move freight by rail.

”The feasibility should consider it. This is where we go wrong –leaving this for another study. We might solve the passenger problem and keep the freight problem and might never be able to use the system for freight. That’s what has happened for the past 40-50 years –the railway gradually lost money-making freight and got loss-making passengers.”
(COLOMBO, August 11, 2017)

http://www.economynext.com/Professionals_push_connectivity,_access_in_Sri_Lan ka_rail_electrification_.-3-8496-6.html

banuthev
13-08-2017, 03:41 PM
Yes in my opinion, I think they need more better, and more useful engines. Even today I was on an M6 locomotive's cab while it was hauling a coastal line slow train, and I realised the locomotive finds it very difficult to pull the train. Even the driver was mentioning that it barely pulls 8 carriages alone on the up country line. But nevertheless, still a brilliant locomotive, in service for almost 38 years.
The coaches look good, but I doubt SLR will purchase coaches as such. Also new trains will be arriving later this year soon, as the tracks leading to the Colombo Port and also in some areas around Dematagoda are currently being/already been replaced with new rails and sleepers, and also ballast :P .

Do you know how many Astra and CSR carriages are currently in service in Sri Lanka ? According to below article, 1000 Astra carriages were delivered to Sri Lanka in 1970 and in 2014, SLR agreed to get 280 more carriages from Astra. Please give me an update if all the 280 carriages have been delivered from Astra to SLR ?

Also according to Railpage's statistics, only 565 carriages were in use by SLR in 2014. Where all the remaining 435 coaches ?


Astra Passenger Coaches is in talks with Sri Lanka Railways (SLR) for the delivery of 280 passenger coaches. The negotiations for the procurement of 160 coaches delivered urgently and 120 in a second phase of the contract are taking place at Astra’s manufacturing plant in Arad.

It is not the first time SLR and Astra collaborate. In 1970, SLR imported 1000 coaches produced by the Romanian rolling stock manufacturer. These have been refurbished a couple of years ago and are also used by private passenger operators Expo Rail and Rajadhani Express, in partnership with SLR.

http://www.think-railways.com/astra-passenger-coaches-talks-sri-lanka-railways/

banuthev
13-08-2017, 04:19 PM
Please see the red ALCO type of engine in the below picture. Is it New Baby in the SLR fleet ?

credits to Thilanka Abeyasekara.

Haleef
13-08-2017, 04:44 PM
Please see the red ALCO type of engine in the below picture. Is it New Baby in the SLR fleet ?

credits to Thilanka Abeyasekara.

Nope, that's owned privately by Holcim lanka in Puttalam. They hire SLR drivers for that engine. Was bought from India, and is now known as the ALCO WDM6.

Serendib
13-08-2017, 05:30 PM
Massive electric train project to begin this year

The Transport Ministry has shortlisted six countries to call for tenders for an electric train project due to begin this year, Ministry Secretary Nihal Somaweera said. Under the project estimated to cost US$ 600 million, a track of 158km will be developed covering the areas between Panadura and Polgahawela, Fort to Negombo and the Kelani Valley line.

Mr Somweera said tenders would be called from companies from Japan, South Korea, France, Australia, Spain and China and the entire project would be allocated to one of them. The project would involve building platforms, installing ticket machines, establishing a security fence along the track and providing engines and compartments, he said. The control system also would be modernised.
A feasibility study for the project costing US$ 30 million was completed before deciding on shortlisting the countries, the secretary said. He said the the project was being funded by the Asian Development Bank (ADB) and was scheduled to be completed in about three years.

The Sunday Times

Serendib
17-08-2017, 09:59 PM
Property development prospects in Sri Lanka railway upgrade

Aug 17, 2017 18:31 PM GMT+0530

ECONOMYNEXT – Sri Lanka’s railway and urban development authorities are to work together to include property development, known as transit-oriented development, in a planned modernisation and electrification of suburban rail.

Palitha Samarasinghe, Railway Electrification and Modernization Project director, said the railway department was in talks with the Urban Development Authority on transit-oriented development or TOD, integrating rail and commercial development schemes.

“We are having talks with UDA on transit oriented rail operations,” he told a forum. “We asked them to consider railway development when planning urban development.”

He was responding to a question whether the modernisation, involving station upgrades, includes property development with private sector participation, during the 15th John Diandas Memorial Lecture held by the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport, Sri Lanka.

“We will consider whatever urban development that can be included,” Samarasinghe said.

Transit-oriented development exploits the connectivity between the rail system and the city provided by stations and enables rail operators to earn alternative revenue and generate increased ridership.

The higher revenues in turn enable provision of better services to the public as in places like Hong Kong, whose Mass Transit Railway Corporation earns one-third of its revenue from non-fare sources like profit from retail and property management.
(COLOMBO, August 17, 2017)

- http://www.economynext.com/Property_...-3-8543-6.html

Serendib
04-09-2017, 07:55 PM
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/170903/news/160-new-indian-trains-ministry-calls-for-fresh-eoi-257721.html

Serendib
11-09-2017, 07:17 AM
http://www.dailymirror.lk/article/Kaduwela-Fort-light-trains-from-Champika-136309.html

banuthev
11-09-2017, 08:10 AM
http://www.dailymirror.lk/article/Kaduwela-Fort-light-trains-from-Champika-136309.html

Hi Haleef,

Is it good idea operating light weight railway in Colombo as mentioned on the above link?

Haleef
11-09-2017, 12:11 PM
Hi Haleef,

Is it good idea operating light weight railway in Colombo as mentioned on the above link?

No comment. I think firstly road and traffic congestion should be taken care of first. But it would be a good idea, but I guess its all only talks, and I doubt that it'll be done. Let's see.

Mach3
07-10-2017, 07:17 AM
Does anyone have an idea of what "load" means on locomotive number plates in sri lanka.
For eg:- class M6
784
Load V2
What does load mean. And there are various numbers and letters like H,X,V1,22/45 Etc

Haleef
08-10-2017, 04:49 PM
Does anyone have an idea of what "load" means on locomotive number plates in sri lanka.
For eg:- class M6
784
Load V2
What does load mean. And there are various numbers and letters like H,X,V1,22/45 Etc

It means how much and the maximum load the locomotive can can haul.

Mach3
13-10-2017, 12:25 PM
It means how much and the maximum load the locomotive can can haul.

Do you know their designation. Like this load bearing locomotive can haul this tonnage.

Haleef
15-10-2017, 05:09 AM
Do you know their designation. Like this load bearing locomotive can haul this tonnage.

Not very sure, sorry.

Mach3
10-11-2017, 08:37 AM
Facebook used to have a dedicated page on sri lanka railways known as sri lanka railway foreigners forum and there seems to be no sign of it now. Wonder what happened,

Can remember it posted memorable photos like the class M8A hauling the badulla night mail(1045/46), M4 and W2 hauling udarate menike, M2 alone pulling 10 carriages on the hill countries ruling incline.

Is there any place I can find those photographs?
Thank you

Haleef
10-11-2017, 01:43 PM
Facebook used to have a dedicated page on sri lanka railways known as sri lanka railway foreigners forum and there seems to be no sign of it now. Wonder what happened,

Can remember it posted memorable photos like the class M8A hauling the badulla night mail(1045/46), M4 and W2 hauling udarate menike, M2 alone pulling 10 carriages on the hill countries ruling incline.

Is there any place I can find those photographs?
Thank you

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1451409245079959.1073741848.143945328960888 8&type=1&l=52efe18c16

Foreigner's Forum is no more.

Serendib
29-11-2017, 06:17 AM
Sri Lanka to modernize railway sector

COLOMBO, Nov. 28 (Xinhua) -- Sri Lanka will modernize its age old railway sector by purchasing over 100 new railway carriages and engines, and developing railway stations, Transport Minister Nimal Siripala De Silva, quoted by state media, said on Tuesday.

De Silva said this will also help the government to strengthen the country's public transportation sector as a majority of Sri Lankans depended on public transport on a daily basis.

The minister said these plans were part of the Colombo suburban railway project which is to be funded by the Asian Development Bank(ADB).

Under this plan, the Transport and Civil Aviation Ministry together with Sri Lanka Railways will construct new parallel railway lines and modernize railway stations.

New railway lines will also be put in place to connect the capital Colombo to the Bandaranaike International Airport.

Thousands of tourists who visit Sri Lanka per year depend on Sri Lanka's railway sector to explore many areas of the island.

Source:xingzhou net